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		<title>Creative Vado HD &#8211; who uses WAV anymore?</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Feb 2009 03:17:07 +0000</pubDate>
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				<category><![CDATA[Applications]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Consumer Electronics]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[SageTV]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Avidemux]]></category>
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		<description><![CDATA[I got a Creative Vado HD for Christmas, and, for what it is, it&#8217;s great.  It&#8217;s compact, takes decent video at high resolution (720p), and it is easy to use. However, I recently tried playing back some of the videos on the SageTV HD-100 extender (doesn&#8217;t this thing seem to be at the root of [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I got a <a href="http://us.creative.com/products/product.asp?category=60&amp;subcategory=832&amp;product=18108" target="_blank">Creative Vado HD</a> for Christmas, and, for what it is, it&#8217;s great.  It&#8217;s compact, takes decent video at high resolution (720p), and it is easy to use.</p>
<p>However, I recently tried playing back some of the videos on the SageTV HD-100 extender (doesn&#8217;t this thing seem to be at the root of all of my problems?), and it failed.  Miserably.  There was no audio, and the video froze after 5-10 seconds.</p>
<p>I figured there must be something funky going on with the audio codec. Creative&#8217;s website, of course, <a href="http://us.creative.com/products/product.asp?category=60&amp;subcategory=832&amp;product=18108&amp;nav=1" target="_blank">doesn&#8217;t tell you what codec is used for the audio</a>.  <a href="http://mediainfo.sourceforge.net/" target="_blank">MediaInfo</a> to the rescue.</p>
<p>It turns out it uses the ADPCM WAV audio codec.  And, of course, <a href="http://forums.sagetv.com/forums/showthread.php?t=28697" target="_blank">the HD-100 doesn&#8217;t support WAV</a> (<a href="http://www.networkedmediatank.com/showthread.php?tid=13263" target="_blank">it&#8217;s a chipset issue</a>, I believe).</p>
<p>The fix is, theoretically, pretty simple &#8211; pull out the audio, convert it to a format that, you know, anyone actually uses anymore, and mux it back in.  However, I want something that will do this all in one step, via the command line.  Luckily, <a href="http://avidemux.org/" target="_blank">Avidemux</a> can do it.</p>
<p>I created a batch file with the following:<br />
<code>"C:\Program Files\Avidemux 2.4\avidemux2_cli.exe" --force-alt-h264 --load %1 --video-codec COPY --audio-codec MP3 --audio-bitrate 128 --output-format AVI --save "%~1 (remux).avi"</code><br />
This loads the source file, copies the video stream, converts the audio stream to MP3, puts it all into an AVI container, and saves it to a new file (the &#8211;force-alt-h264 is necessary in order to avoid a prompt in the command line output; it has to be before the &#8211;load argument).  Every time I put a file on the server, it runs this.  Every now and then I go in and verify that the files converted properly, and then I manually delete the originals.</p>
<p><strong>Postscript</strong>: yes, you can use AAC and put it into an MP4 container.  However, it won&#8217;t play on anything Apple, because the AVC profile used by the Vado uses <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Context-adaptive_binary_arithmetic_coding" target="_blank">CABAC</a>.  I can&#8217;t tell you exactly what CABAC is, but I can tell you that <a href="http://forums.macnn.com/82/applications/332899/quicktime-any-plans-h-264-high/" target="_blank">Quicktime doesn&#8217;t like it</a>.  I think I read that Apple TV doesn&#8217;t like it either, but I don&#8217;t recall.  iPods don&#8217;t like CABAC either, but the resolution is too high, so it&#8217;s a non-issue here.</p>
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